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	<title>Pogovor &#187; MozPad</title>
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		<title>Holiday Moz Snippets</title>
		<link>http://brian.kingsonline.net/talk/2007/12/holiday-moz-snippets/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 17:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Brian King</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some random snippets/observatiosn&#8230; Nat Torkington over at O&#8217;Reilly Radar want Mozilla to reverse its course on XULRunner. I&#8217;m confused. He seems to be implying that it should be dropped. shaver has already called him on it in the comments. What has happened to MozPad. The initial enthusiasm and burst of action has evaporated. I hold [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some random snippets/observatiosn&#8230;</p>
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<li> Nat Torkington over at <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/nat">O&#8217;Reilly Radar</a> want Mozilla to <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2007/12/stories_we_want_1.html">reverse its course on XULRunner</a>. I&#8217;m confused. He seems to be implying that it should be dropped. shaver has already called him on it in the comments.</li>
<li>What has happened to <a href="http://mozpad.org">MozPad</a>. The initial enthusiasm and burst of action has evaporated. I hold my hands up as guilty of letting the momentum drop &#8230; must follow up in the appropriate channels about this.</li>
<li>If you missed my <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/2007/12/operation_date_confirmed.html">previous post</a> about FOSDEM 2008, head on over to the <a href="http://wiki.mozilla.org/Fosdem:2008">Wiki to find out more</a>. I&#8217;m wishing Gerv <a href="http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/gerv/archives/2007/12/operation_date_confirmed.html">a speedy recovery in time</a>.</li>
<li>Is it just me, or are the prices at the <a href="http://intlstore.mozilla.org/">Mozilla International Store</a> outrageous?! <strong>â‚¬ 68.06 </strong>for a messenger bag, which does not include shipping which appears to run and around another <strong>â‚¬ 20 per kg</strong>. I&#8217;m sure the goods are good, but are they that good?</li>
<li>Last night at a hair salon art studio(!) opening in Ljubljana, I was catching up with my friend Luka Frelih from <a href="http://www.ljudmila.org/">Ljudmila</a>. He is blown away by the speed of Firefox 3. So am I. Among the many interesting things he is working on, <a href="http://openstreetmap.org/">OpenStreetMap</a> stood out.</li>
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		<title>XULRunner Patches Proposal</title>
		<link>http://brian.kingsonline.net/talk/2007/06/xulrunner-patches-proposal/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 12:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[As many software vendors building a XULRunner application will tell you, they need to build their own version and maintain a set of core patches. These patches might be to fix bugs that are biting them, or add new features. Under the umbrella of mozpad.org and with the ultimate goal being to &#8220;make the platform [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many software vendors building a XULRunner application will tell you, they need to build their own version and maintain a set of core patches. These patches might be to fix bugs that are biting them, or add new features.</p>
<p>Under the umbrella of mozpad.org and with the ultimate goal being to &#8220;make the platform better&#8221;, here is a proposal to get to grips with these patches and make the process easier for developers.</p>
<p>[Below copied from <a href="http://mozpad.org/doku.php?id=actionitem:patches_proposal">original proposal</a>. Feedback welcome.]</p>
<h3>Current Short Description</h3>
<p>Compile a list of work on the platform being done by various third parties and Mozilla itself in order to identify areas of overlap and possible cooperation. Gather core changes that have already been implemented, merge them, file bugs and propose patches.</p>
<h3>Why</h3>
<p>There are a number of reasons for consumers of the platform to cooperate on technical issues, including:<br />
&nbsp; * Avoid duplication of work<br />
&nbsp; * Prompt debate on what should and should not be in the platform, i.e. identify niche fixes that are only valuable to a particular application vs. any application<br />
&nbsp; * Sharing of knowledge and code, in the spirit of the openness of the Mozilla project<br />
&nbsp; * Putting more weight behind patches in Bugzilla could speed up review/check-in process<br />
&nbsp; * And ultimately &#8230; TO MAKE THE PLATFORM BETTER</p>
<h3>How</h3>
<p>&nbsp; &#8211; Identify vendors and individuals using XULRunner to develop their applications. Compile a list (such lists exist elsewhere, but are incomplete/outdated).<br />
&nbsp; &#8211; Contact these people (either individually or in a batch) soliciting feedback on this issue and whether they are willing to take part.<br />
&nbsp; &#8211; Possibly provide a forum such as a mailing list, or use existing channels such as the mozilla.dev.platform list. A semi-private forum might help reduce the noise and provide focus for the initial gathering of information.<br />
&nbsp; &#8211; Compile the list of core patches, and what features/bugs they are fixing.<br />
&nbsp; &#8211; Merge (idenitfy overlap) / File Bugs / Attach patches</p>
<h3>TODO</h3>
<p>&nbsp; &#8211; Identify if the build systems and installers used for these applications is under the remit of this task. Each application has its own deployment needs, so moving towards a single build model on each platform might not be practical.</p>
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		<title>All Is Well in Mozilla Land</title>
		<link>http://brian.kingsonline.net/talk/2007/06/all-is-well-in-mozilla-land/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>brian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[It has been mentioned in a few other places, but I want to jump in and wish David Boswell the best of luck in his new position as Programs Coordinator at the Mozilla Foundation. I know David as both a friend and a work colleague (as fellow member of Mozdev Board of Directors). I have [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It has been mentioned in a few other places, but I want to jump in and wish David Boswell the best of luck in his new position as Programs Coordinator at the Mozilla Foundation. I know David as both a friend and a work colleague (as fellow member of <a href="http://board.mozdev.org/members.html">Mozdev Board of Directors</a>). I have no doubt he will bring to bear his valuable experience in the community and positive energy to the position. See how he describes it in his own words <a href="http://davidwboswell.wordpress.com/2007/06/18/reintroducing-myself/">here</a>.</p>
<p>On the subject of Mozdev, after a lengthy selection process, we have hired new application developer to add more features to the site and provide more services to our ever loyal project owners. David has already <a href="http://davidwboswell.wordpress.com/2007/06/15/mozdev-hires-a-full-time-web-developer/">introduced Doug Warner</a>, and I have nothing to add except to thank the other board members (esp. David, <a href="http://www.melez.com/mykzilla/">Myk Melez</a> and <a href="http://board.mozdev.org/members.html#eric">Eric Jung</a>) for their tireless work in filling the position. So as we move forward, I invite you to review our <a href="http://www.mozdev.org/resources/roadmap.html">current roadmap</a>, and please let us know what other features you would like to see.</p>
<p>[<em>If you are wondering about the post title, head on over to <a href="http://www.alliswell.com/">http://www.alliswell.com/</a> to discover one of David's other talents</em>]</p>
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